I too am very confused by this weird merging of costs and reminders. In other apps I've used, you set up various services you want to perform. For example, I might want to check the tire pressure every 1000 mi or 1 month. And I want to change the oil every 3000 mi or 3 months. It shouldn't be necessary to set both miles and months. If you fill in only one, that's the thing that matter for the reminder
Anyway, most of this information would be filled from the service manual for the vehicle. There should be some that are marked optional and others that are mandatory. If you have missed an optional service, that should just turn the vehicle reminder yellow, but if you have missed a mandatory service, it should be red.
The app should then start counting down and then send a reminder when we are close to the due date or mileage. Also, at any point I should be able to enter the odometer reading, the date and which of these services were performed, along with an optional cost. It would be most helpful if I could enter the date and odometer and then pick from the multiple services without having to do it one by one.
In all cases, the reminders should get reset whenever I perform a service. A good example of how this is done is the "Remember the Oil" app on iOS. I've been trying to find an app on Android that does something similar and Fuel.io is the closest thing I've found so far.
If you'd like to discuss this further, let me know.
But you can easily use reminders without costs. It's not mandatory. You've got choice here.
This is exactly working like that or I don't understand something.
I've got for example reminder for oil - to date and 15k km. After changing I'm clicking on it as done and I've got another cycle for it - so to the date I've changed oil next date or odocounter is calculated.
No need to add costs with reminders if you want to use it like this.
Yeah, I tried clicking on 'done', but all it did was reset the reminder. There was no service added to the log for the vehicle. A service log should include when I performed the service. It just seems to reset the reminder and nothing is added to the log of services.
If you can tell me how to do what I want using the system you've set up, I'll try it.
Basically I want to set up several services that are recurring.
1. Check oil every 1000 miles or 1 month (optional)
2. Check tire pressure 1000 miles or 1 month (optional)
3. Change oil every 3000 miles or 3 months (mandatory)
4. Change windshield wipers every 2 years (optional)
5. Change spark plugs every 100,000 miles (mandatory)
There should be a screen that shows me all these service reminders and what is coming due. I can then add a service record that says, I checked the oil and the tire pressure (services #1 and #2) on 5/5/2016 and odometer reading of 34,567. This particular service didn't cost anything, so I'd enter 0. Now I'd have that in my log of services performed on the car. It would also reset the reminders for both these services to say they were done on 5/5/2016 at odo 34,567.
Later I might change the oil, so on 6/6/2016 I'd perform service #3 at odometer reading 36,111. This has a cost of $59.99 with some other notes added to the service. That should all get added to the log. Again the service reminder would get reset to say that the service is performed at this time and I'd be good for another 3000 miles or 3 months.
Add reminder without cost. And it should work like that.
When you'll click done it will be reset and new date and odocouter will be calculated.
Next odocounter value is not changing?
Basically in Fuelio right now you can use reminder with or without costs. If you will save just reminder it should work.
I'll check it tomorrow, maybe it's another bug. I'm all the time using it like you wrote. For oil for example. And clicking done is showing me my next visit.
The problem is I don't see any record that I performed the service. Yes, it changes the reminder so that it will flag that I need to do it again in another 3000 miles, for example. But where is the record that I did that service today? And how would I add the cost for it? Do you see what I mean?
In my example, I want to set a service reminder to change the oil every 3000 miles or 3 months. Now when it comes time to perform that service, I want to click on it, say that it was done at 36,111 miles and cost $59.99 to change the oil. I also want to add a note of the type of oil I used. I'd then expect that to be added to the lists of services I'd performed on the car. Later I could go back and see that I had indeed been performing regular oil changes along with their dates, miles and costs (which could be 0 or not).
Yes. But it should be like that.
You can have cost with reminder or reminder just like that. Thanks to reminder you'll know when you need to change your oil. Next iteration will show you next date but you need to add cost manually.
There no better way. In most cases the price for oil change is not fixed. Every year I'm paying different price for that - that's why the cost is not automatically created.
I don't have idea how to make it better. If I'll create automatically cost - for most of the users it will be wrong because the price is different.
So basically - reminder is notification which should tells you - hey -it's time to change your oil! When you'll have term and you'll pay for it you need to add it.
TO make it faster - I've created cost templates. Save your oil change as template. Then you'll be able to recreate cost easily. Two clicks - you need to change the price or if the price is the same just confirm.
I guess I'm not following how I would use this. It seems like a lot of extra work to enter this. For example, I want to add a reminder to check my oil level and another to check my tire pressure (no cost) but I also want to add two reminders to change my oil and to rotate my tires. Let's say I go to the gas station and I'm checking my oil level and the tire pressure. So how do I add a record to say that I did both of the services today? Do I have to mark the two reminders as done? I did that, but I don't see any record that I did them. There is nothing in the "costs" section because these were free services.
And now if I want to take my car in for an oil change and tire rotation, do I have to find the template/reminder for both costs? Do I mark them done one-by-one? How do I say that I did *both* services and the total cost was $75? I don't want to have to itemize each cost separately. I just care that both are marked done and that the cost of $75 was paid. At that point both reminders should get reset (they may have different schedules, say 3000 mi for oil change and 5000 mi for next tire rotation).
This is how most apps for recording services work. You have a table of services with how often they recur. At any point you can see which ones are coming due. Then you could take the car in and have several of these services all done at once. In picking those services all the reminders get reset.
You have choice.
Reminders are just reminders - no cost items to show you need to do something and when it's done - you should add costs separately.
Other case - I'm using for example for oil. Every oil change I'm creating new cost with reminder and after paying an invoice I'm adding new cost with new reminder.
Because the price isn't fixed it is not connected.
For both services there no other way than adding new cost with oil + tire = 75$.
Template is helper for you. You can use it or not to easily add same cost based on previous item. Nothing more.
If you have two reminders for oil and tires - yes - you need to click them separately.
I don't know to be honest how can I change it to suit you needs. If you have idea just tell me.
Maybe I can ask user after saving reminder as done to enter the price for the service and then I can add it to the cost log. Maybe that's an idea.
So this way you'll be able to:
- add reminder (no cost - odo or date)
- after saving as done - I can ask you if you want to add new cost item for this.
Hey maybe this can resolve this issue. If the price is fixed - I can use previous price (preload) but in many cases.
Okay, I sort of understand your design. It's not how I would ideally like it to be because it doesn't keep track of when I completed each of the reminders (with no cost) so I could go back and see that history, unless there was a charge for the service and then it can be added as a cost. But if I do several things at once I have to enter a cost for each one and then reset the reminders for each one individually, right?
It's just a different point of view. You see this app as tracking costs mostly (say cost of fuel and costs of service and repairs). But I see it as keeping my car healthy by monitoring by gas mileage, performing regular checks such as oil level and tire pressure (and recording those events), and finally getting reminders on maintenance that needs to be performed.
Maybe it's the screen design that makes it confusing (reminders with cost, reminders without cost, templates, repeating costs, marking reminders as done, adding costs, etc.) I think perhaps you are trying to do too much in one area and it could be simplified or at least explained with some examples in the FAQ.
Hi!Would first like to thank you for all of the work that has been done with the app. A lot of good thought has gone into it.
I have some concerns regarding the notifications:
[My bike is currently at 23,750km.]
-One notification, "Oil Check every 1,000" was done at 23.000. the notification has now turned red again, even though I haven't reached 24.000 yet.
-Other one: "Timingbelts every 10.000". I was supposed to change the timing-belt at 20.000, but that haven't been done untill now. When I pressed the "Done", the next change is scheduled at 30.000, even though I should run it untill 33.750.
-Last one: "Front fork Oil: 20.000 or 4yrs, whatever comes first". Meaning: Fork oil change was scheduled at 20.000km or 01.01.2019. When I changed it at 20.000, the next check was set at 40.000 (Sounds fine) OR 2019+4yrs=2023 (6 yrs from now! Not good!)
Bottom line: Is there a way to fix it so that when I press done, it takes the CURRENt odometer and date, and adds the intervals? Instead of taking the supposed odo/date and adding them?
Looking forward to hearing from you,
Could you confirm, we are talking about 7.0.7?
I've fixed one issue related with this but maybe it's still the issue.
Did you change date format?
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